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'धार्मिक आजादी की भी हद होती है'

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कर्नाटक के गृहमंत्री डॉ वी एस आचार्य का तर्क है कि ईसाइयों के खिलाफ हो रही हिंसा धर्मांतरण के खिलाफ लोगों की स्वाभाविक प्रतिक्रिया है.

डुपि, मैंगलोर, चिकमंगलूर, दवनगिरी और चिकबल्लपुर में ईसाइयों और चर्चों पर हमले हुए हैं. अगस्त से अब तक इस तरह के 25 मामले सामने आ चुके हैं. क्या राज्य में कानून और व्यवस्था की स्थिति बन गई है?

हमले समूचे ईसाई समुदाय के खिलाफ नहीं थे बल्कि इनका निशाना न्यू लाइफ, सेवेंथ डे एडवेंटिस्ट्स आदि जैसे कुछ खास संगठन थे जो भड़काऊ सामग्री बांट रहे थे और लोगों की गरीबी का फायदा उठाकर उन्हें ईसाई बनने के लिए मजबूर कर रहे थे. जबरन किए जाने वाले इस धर्मांतरण को विदेश से आर्थिक मदद मिल रही थी और हमारे लोगों पर इसका प्रभाव साफ देखा जा सकता है.

क्या आप इन हमलों को न्यायसंगत ठहरा रहे हैं?

ऐसे कुछ लोग हैं जिन्होंने जबरन धर्म परिवर्तन करने वाले सभी तत्वों को खत्म करने का कार्यक्रम बनाया था. मगर समस्या उनसे शुरू नहीं हुई. समस्या तब शुरू हुई जब एक समाचार चैनल ने लगातार एक फुटेज का प्रसारण शुरू किया जिसमें यीशु मसीह की मूर्ति के साथ तोड़फोड़ दिखाई जा रही थी. हम हर तरह की हिंसा की निंदा करते हैं. मुख्यमंत्री पहले ही ऐलान कर चुके हैं कि इस तरह के कार्यक्रमों पर चलने वाले लोगों के खिलाफ कड़े कदम उठाए जाएंगे. हम किसी को भी हिंसा फैलाने की इजाजत नहीं देंगे.

हालात को काबू में करने के लिए सरकार ने क्या कदम उठाए हैं?

मुख्यमंत्री और मैंने वरिष्ठ पुलिस अधिकारियों के साथ इलाके का दौरा किया है. 150 से भी ज्यादा लोगों को गिरफ्तार किया गया है. इनमें वे ईसाई भी हैं जो जवाबी हमले में शामिल थे.

कितने ईसाइयों और बजरंग दल कार्यकर्ताओं को गिरफ्तार किया गया है?

लगभग 23 ईसाइयों और 60 से 70 बजरंग दल कार्यकर्ताओं को गिरफ्तार किया गया है. शुरुआत में करीब 300 लोगों को हिरासत में लिया गया था मगर हमने सिर्फ 153 लोगों के खिलाफ मामला दर्ज किया है. मैं ये बताना चाहूंगा कि स्थिति अब शांत है और हालात उम्मीद से कहीं जल्दी फिर से सामान्य हो गए हैं.

राज्य में बजरंग दल के अध्यक्ष महेंद्र कुमार ने ईसाइयों को इन हमलों का विरोध न करने की चेतावनी दी है. उन्होंने ये भी कहा है कि ईसाइयों को इन हमलों से आहत नहीं होना चाहिए और अगर वे होते हैं तो हम ये समझेंगे कि वे उन संगठनों का समर्थन करते हैं जो हिंदुओं को ईसाई बना रहे हैं. तब हमारे पास कार्रवाई करने के अलावा कोई और चारा नहीं होगा.क्या आप उनके खिलाफ कोई कदम उठाएंगे?

मुख्यमंत्री ने जो कहा है वो मैं पहले ही आपको बता चुका हूं.

क्या आप कुमार को गिरफ्तार करेंग? और राष्ट्रीय हिंदुस्तान सेना के मुखिया प्रमोद मुथालिक ने ऐलान किया है कि उनका संगठन 700 आत्मघाती हमलावरों को प्रशिक्षण दे रहा है.

अगर उन्होंने ऐसा कुछ कहा है तो हम कार्रवाई करेंगे. हम हिंसा को बर्दाश्त नहीं करेंगे.

मीडिया में ये खबरें आ चुकी हैं. फिर भी कोई कार्रवाई नहीं हो रही. क्या इन नेताओं को बचाया जा रहा है?

नहीं, हम उनके खिलाफ कदम उठाएंगे. अगर जरूरत पड़ी तो उनके खिलाफ मामला दर्ज किया जाएगा.

सरकार के पास क्या सबूत है कि जबरन धर्म परिवर्तन करवाया जा रहा है?

हम सभी धर्मों का समर्थन करते हैं. मैं धार्मिक आजादी का पक्षधर हूं मगर धार्मिक आजादी की एक हद होती है. इस हद का उल्लेख संविधान में भी किया गया है. कृपया जाइये और उसे देखिए. जब बेवजह दबाव बनाया जा रहा हो, लोगों को लालच दिया जा रहा हो और लोगों का उनकी इच्छा के खिलाफ धर्मपरिवर्तन कराया जा रहा हो तो उनकी तरफ से प्रतिक्रिया होना स्वाभाविक है जिनकी भावनाएं इससे आहत हो रही हों. लेकिन हमने हर किसी को निर्देश दिया है कि कानून हाथ में लेने की बजाय पुलिस में इसकी शिकायत दर्ज करवाई जाए. इससे ज्यादा कहने के लिए मेरे पास कुछ नहीं है.

संजना

Comments (15 posted):

kunal singh on 19/09/08 12:44:42
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कर्नाटक के गृहमंत्री का इंटरव्यू पढ़ कर आश्चर्य हुआ...उन्हें ये नहीं भूलना चाहिए की वे भाजपा के नेता के साथ-साथ एक राज्य के गृहमंत्री भी हैं...भले ही आपकी व्यक्तिगत राय कुछ भी क्यों न हो...लेकिन अभी आप राज्य के मत्री है..जिसे भाजपा ने नहीं राज्य की जनता ने अपना वोट देकर चुना है....कम से कम देश के संबिधान का आपको ख्याल रखना चाहिए मंत्री महोदय....बीजेपी की ये राजनीति निश्चय ही देश में नफरत की राजनीति को और बल देगी...
Masoom on 20/09/08 08:46:05
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Shame shame Mr. Minister
samayendra on 24/09/08 06:05:05
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BJP is the worst political party in india. BJP leaders policy is hate based.they don't want to discuss why mostly SC/ST people accept christian religion? they always tell only one reason greed. i think all BJP leaders are worst mentality. they should leave politics because they can't move forward with all.
stainly on 27/09/08 10:36:59
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SHAME SHAME SHAME on BJP now they are showing their original face. they loves Hitler they love Bajrang Dal Rss and Shiv Sena's Voilence.
i am asking is it not terrorism? if not then what is the meaning of terrorism? happening in Orrisa and karnataka.
Alok on 28/09/08 03:49:59
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If anyone doing wrong against Hinduism thats right and if anyone doing aginst another religion thats wrong . Wow thats the secularism in India
vivek rai on 28/09/08 07:58:04
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mantri ji ko ye nahi bhulna chahiye ki wo rajya ke pratyek nagriko ki hito ki rakhsa ke liye jimmedar hai ...is liye wo jo bhi kahe soch samajh ke kahe ....
jagat mohan on 03/10/08 02:53:32
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yeh satya hai ki mantri ek dharm ki bhalai ke liye soche, sabhi dharm uske liye samaan hai, missionary of new life ne jab satya darshini namak pustak ke ansho ko pamphlete banakar samaj mein bantana shuru kiya tha usi samay sarkari tantra ko sakriya hona chahiye tha. manglore, davangiri & udupi mein hui pratikriya inhi pamphleto ke karan hui hai. kya dusare dharmo ke bhagwano par anadar purna tippani karna theek hai, yadi nahin to abhi tak un logo ko arrest kyoun nahin arrest kiya gaya. salman rushdi ki kitab par ban lagane valo ko christian missionariyo dwara chhapi gayi pustak par pratibandh nahin lagana chahiye jisme hindu devi devatao ki khilli udaai gayi hai. denmark mein ek patrika mein cartoon chhapate hai aur bharat mein us par muslim samaaj pratikriya karta hai to saara media aur secular budhijivi shant rahate he vahin m f hussain hindu devi devtao ke abhadra chitra banaye jaate he uspar sarkare shant rahati hai uspar pratikriya hoti hai to sara secular samaaj khada ho jaata hai virodh mein, nyayaalaya bhi pratikirya swaroop ise kala par chot maanta hai, jab christian aur muslim apane ishth ka apmaan nahin sah sakte to hindu se aisi apeksha kyon. yadi yeh kala ki abhivyakti hai to apne mazhab ke ishtho par yeh abhivyakti karke dikhlaye.
sabhi apekshaye hindu samaaj se kyuon.
vigyan ka niyam hai KRIYA KI PRTIKRIYA jis partical mein pratikriya nahin hoti vah mrit partical hota hai. jabki hindu samaaj shaswat jivit samaaj hai
Abhisek on 06/10/08 07:59:10
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100 Saal bad log kaha karenge , Ek purana dharm "Hindu" bharat mein tha jo 7000 sal se tha
SUNIL on 06/10/08 10:07:11
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दुःख की बात तो ये है की हिन्दुस्थान में ही हिन्दुओं को खतरा हो रहा है..
ये हिन्दुओं का ही पैसा उनके खिलाफ काम में लाया जा रहा है..
आप को या नही पता की हिन्दुओं की संख्या में लगातार गिरावट आ रही है..
क्या कारन है ??
धरम परिवर्तन के नाम पर मिडिया क्यो चुप था?
या क्या पहेली समस्या है?
क्या दारासिंह के मामले में में भी ये धरम परिवर्तन नही था??
असल में ये सब हिन्दुओं की अनेकता की वजह से है,
हिन्दुओं में कौन एकता करेगा ??
ये हिंदू जादातर मुर्ख है, ये इतिहास से कुछ नही सीखते! और मुर्ख और गद्दारों की शंख्या लगातार बढ़ रही है..जैसे लालू, मुलायम आदि
ये लोग जहा दया दिखानी होती है वह दया नही देखते और जहा दया नही दिखानी वहा दया दिखाते है.
क्या किसी पार्टी और नेता से उम्मीद कर सकते है??
prince on 06/10/08 11:33:54
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MERA BHARAT MAHAN!!!
where there is castism there is no development in the country.
Today we see that our country is almost no.1 in curreption. There is no integrity in the people & there is no desire to build our nation in the right way....
....as indian we should think every technology and new inventions we are copying from other western countries and later we use to say we are the GURU of this universe.
so how can we be GURU untill we are full off virus of castism.
May almighty give wisdom to the people of our nation.
JAI BHARAT, JAI SATYA.
muds on 09/10/08 11:23:17
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I wan to ask to Mr. Adwani

yeh grah mantri hai ? Grah mantri aise hote hain ? BJP ke paas ek state ke grah mantri banane ke liye ek bhi achha insaan nahi hai ? Jab inhe media se baat karna nahi aati yeh hindu terrorism ko control kaise karenge ?
mayur rangari on 17/10/08 11:16:51
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Is interview se mai puri tarah ashwast ho gaya hu ki katne wale aur marne wale sabhi kewal katputli hai. Asli madari to Karnatka ke HM Do. Acharya gaise log hai. Hinduo ki sankhay kam ho rahi hai aur dusre dharmo ko manne walo ki sankhay mae badhothari ho rahi hai isse India ke tamam problems kaise jude hai? Asli problems ki our se bhatkane ke liye ye sab kiya ja raha hai.
Why Hindu Nation on 18/10/08 10:09:14
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What a timely and vital contribution on Roma (below). Congratulations to the esteemed writer for his knowledge and motivation.

We ask, "What kind of GOVERNMENT or PARLIAMENT do we have in PARTITIONED India that is only concerned with keeping the natives ignorant of their own "tribe" or family AT HOME and scattered far and wide, some due to previous INVASIONS as in the 11th century AD and some SINCE 1947 due to Partition and subsequent mismanagement, corruption and death or neglect of moral fibre and NATIVE religions of our nation as typified by Nehru's deletion of the word HINDU from his Constitution straight after CONCEDING Islam in our five provinces turned over to separatist ISLAM overnight, and later by arrogant rule by semi dictator Indira "Gandhi" (who married Feroze KHAN) and her notorious rootless son who brought a foreign female and became notorious as "BOFORS' Chor".
Among those badly or deliberately neglected and BETRAYED were the happy and peaceful Buddhists of Chittagong, Skardu, Baltistan and Gilgit and the Hindus of North & even South Kashmir, East Bengal and Sindh, and the prosperous INDIAN settlements in Uganda, Fiji and Northern Sri Lanka as well all the Shinti and Roma, the lost children of Bharatvarsha.
While Bharat was the lucrative target for all the PREDATORS from the Middle East and the Europeans until 1947 the country that was partitioned with more Muslims left inside than driven outside, has been virtually suffocating under ONE dynasty since. We see the power and might of Italian born Catholic Sonia "Gandhi" and even her offspring Priyenka and Rahul who are provided security at the expense of poor tax payers as if they were royalty.

Among the tragic victims of this neglect are the Roma and Shinti. A nationalist, and truly patriotic, Government would have taken stock of situation and created a special Ministry for recovery and consolidation of our lost and wasted assets.

There appears to be a sham of an office in Chandigarh that is supposed to be responsible for gypsies but its role has not been appreciated or even understood. Just recall the last international Roma Conference held there over a decade ago and see who was the "man from government"? Did he have a clue to the history of western India where repeated invasions drove the whole population away?

As long as the Hindu nation does not take stock of its own affairs and as long as the Hindu nation does not grasp the implications of partition of 1947 and snatch its destiny from dynasty, India will develop in a lopsided manner. We shall certainly go on admiring those big countries like China and small countries like Czech Republic and Lithuania where national affairs are firmly in the hands of natives.

There is NO sign of the likes of Khans of Boollywood there who mesmerise the nation, nor a prime minister's son or daughter becoming the prime minister. With regard to latter, let us see the gruelling dual between Obama and Hillary in the USA. How tenaciously are they FIGHTING for their own nomination. Had it been our own Bharatvarsha, Clinton's wife Hillary would have AUTOMATICALLY become the President after her husband.

Invason of India
Daily demographic invasion of IndiaBy J.G. Arora

Tragically, the Indian government, mainstream media and all major political parties are silent spectators when Bharat is being grabbed bit by bit by Pak-Bangla terrorists and infiltrators everyday. Despite the Supreme Court’s judgments, no infiltrator has been deported by the government. Rather, the government is busy with terrorist and infiltrator-friendly ‘confidence building measures’ like soft borders, peace talks, Indo-Pak and Indo-Bangladesh bus and rail links, which are bringing more and more Pak-Bangla nationals into India everyday. And instead of being deported, infiltrators are being given voting rights.

According to Barbara W. Tuchman, American historian and author of The March of Folly, “disasters of history are the result of government’s folly and perverse persistence in pursuing the policies contrary to national interests.” Indian government’s persistent inaction against demographic invasion by crores of Pak-Bangla infiltrators is generating a historical disaster since the said invasion aims to dismember India and plant more Pakistans and Bangladeshs on Indian soil. Bharat Varsha comprising the present day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Afghanistan etc. used to be Hindu land with zero Muslim population till Muhammad bin Qasim’s Arab army attacked Sindh in 711. Despite fighting valiantly to defend their dharma and motherland during repeated Muslim invasions for over a thousand years, Hindus lost Afghanistan in 987, and present day Pakistan and Bangladesh to Muslims in 1947. After 1947, truncated India i.e. Bharat has seen genocide and eviction of Hindus from Muslim majority Kashmir. Many Hindus apprehend that because of higher Muslim growth rate and infiltration from Pakistan and Bangladesh, they in India too will be outnumbered by Muslims in a few decades, and face the misery undergone by Hindus in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which also used to be Hindu lands. Pak-Bangla axis To prevent plantation of more Pakistans and Bangladeshs on Indian soil, one must know how Pakistan and Bangladesh were created. After overthrow of Muslim rule, India was under the British from 1857 to 1947. Formed in 1906, Muslim League demanded Pakistan in 1940 with Muhammad Ali Jinnah proclaiming that Hindus and Muslims belonged to two different religions, civilisations and nations which could never live together in one country; and demanding Pakistan, a separate country for Muslims, comprising Muslim majority areas in India. In 1945-46 elections, Muslims voted for creation of Pakistan. In 1947, the Muslims got a third of Bharat’s land as Pakistan. In 1971, East Pakistan became Bangladesh while West Pakistan was renamed as Pakistan. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh are Islamic Republics and have driven out most of Hindus and Sikhs from their land. However, most of Indian Muslims who had demanded Pakistan and exchange of population did not go to Pakistan. Rather, the present percentage of Muslim population in India is much higher than that in 1947. Pakistani army, which is ideologically anti-Hindu and anti-Bharat, actually rules Pakistan and nurtures terrorism. In their bid to dismember and bleed India through “a thousand cuts”, Pakistan and Bangladesh have sent countless terrorists and crores of their nationals into India. At present, Hindu civilisation is a demographically challenged civilisation. Because of infiltration, many districts in India bordering Bangladesh have seen abnormal increase in Muslim population. In 1996 itself, Shri T.V. Rajeshwar, former Intelligence Bureau Chief (and the present U.P. Governor) had warned about emergence of one more Islamic country because of Bangladeshi infiltration. In 1998, Shri S.K. Sinha, the then Governor of Assam, also sounded similar caution. Warnings of Shri T.V. Rajeshwar and Shri S.K. Sinha have been fortified by census of 2001. Pak-Bangla infiltrators are entering India through many points on India’s soft borders everyday. With each passing day, India is being made more Islamic and less Hindu. No action on Supreme Court’s judgments AASU leader Sarbanand Sonowal took the issue of Bangladeshi infiltration to the Supreme Court. By its judgment dated July 12, 2005, Supreme Court struck down the Illegal Migrants (D.T.) Act, 1983 as unconstitutional; and termed Bangladeshi infiltration as “external aggression” and directed that “Bangladeshi nationals who have trespassed into Assam or are living in other parts of the country have no legal right of any kind to remain in India and they are liable to be deported.” Shockingly, instead of deporting the infiltrators, on Februaty 10, 2006, UPA government brought in the Foreigners (Tribunals for Assam) Order to nullify the apex Court’s judgment. But on December 5, 2006, Supreme Court quashed this Order also as unconstitutional, and called for implementation of its earlier judgment dated July 12, 2005 for deporting illegal immigrants. Despite the Supreme Court’s above-mentioned judgments, no infiltrator has been deported by the government. Rather, the government is busy with terrorist and infiltrator-friendly ‘confidence building measures’ like soft borders, peace talks, Indo-Pak and Indo-Bangladesh bus and rail links, which are bringing more and more Pak-Bangla nationals into India everyday. And instead of being deported, infiltrators are being given voting rights. Tragically, the Indian government, mainstream media and all major political parties are silent spectators when Bharat is being grabbed bit by bit by Pak-Bangla terrorists and infiltrators everyday. Way out After bravely fighting foreign invaders for over 1,200 years, Bharat has meekly surrendered before Pak-Bangla demographic invasion. We must do everything to save Bharat and its heritage for the coming generations the way our ancestors saved the same for us. Since we cannot expect others to fight our battles, all nationalist organisations and individuals must assert themselves to force the government to act as follows to prevent the creation of more Pakistans and Bangladeshs on Bharat’s land.
i. The Supreme Court’s judgments dated July 12, 2005 and December 5, 2006 must be implemented to deport the infiltrators and curb their daily influx. Infiltrators must be treated as invaders, and not as vote banks.
ii. Since ‘confidence building measures’ with Pakistan and Bangladesh are suicidal for Bharat, all Indo-Pak and Indo-Bangla road and rail journeys, cultural and sports relations, and peace talks must be discontinued.
iii. India must protect its borders to prevent aggressors from entering India.
iv. Enemies must be crushed; not embraced. History teaches the crushing of enemies before the enemies crush us.
v. Terrorist network in Pakistan and Bangladesh must be smashed to take the war into enemy territory.
vi. Any move to form a confederation of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh must be rejected since such a step would help Islamisation of India.I had started this write-up with Barbara W. Tuchman’s observation. How I wish Indian government safeguards India’s national interests and takes the above-mentioned steps with alacrity to prevent the creation of more Pakistans and Bangladeshs on Indian soil! (The author is former Chief Commissioner of Income Tax and can be
manish kumar on 19/10/08 02:55:42
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jab hum rajneeti aur netao ke bare me baat karte hain....to apna gireban bhi dekhna chaiye...yanha per interview lene wal ne ek cristen ke dharm pariwartan karne wale ke khilaf ek sawal nahi puchha....
manish kushwaha on 30/11/08 09:59:39
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mantri ek sachche desh bhakt hain
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